Industry News

Elon Musk Talks Auto Safety and Regulation of Artificial Intelligence with Joe Rogan

On the Joe Rogan podcast this week, Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s inner Ralph Nader was on full display, with Musk promoting federal regulation of artificial intelligence, criticizing the auto industry’s campaign against seat belts and safety regulation, and praising modern airbags as “crazy good.”

In the middle of a three and a half hour conversation, Rogan triggered the discussion on regulation when he said he was worried about artificial intelligence.

“We should have oversight of some kind,” Musk said. “A regulatory agency like the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) or the FDA (Food and Drug Administration). We need an acronym to oversee this stuff.”

Rogan expressed doubts about a government agency getting the job done.

“The probability of industry capture is higher if it’s an industry body than if it is the government,” Musk said. “It’s not zero if it is the government. There are plenty of instances of regulatory capture of a government agency. But the probability is lower than if it is an industry group. At the end of the day somebody has to go and tell Facebook, or Google or Tesla, this is okay or it is not okay. Or at least report back to the public — this is what we found. Otherwise the inmates are running the asylum. And these are not necessarily friendly inmates.”

“I’m not a fan of — let’s have the government do lots of things,” Musk said. “You want to have the government do the least amount of stuff. The right role of government is for it to be the referee on the field. When the government starts being a player on the field, that’s problematic. Or when you start having more referees than players, which is the case in California, then that’s not good. You can’t have no referees. Everyone agrees that a referee might be annoying at times, but it is better to have a referee than not.”

Rogan said — “I’m just worried that it’s going to be too late, by the time these things become sentient, by the time they develop the ability to analyze what the threat of human beings are and whether or not human beings are essential –”

“I’m not saying that having regulatory agencies is some panacea or reduces the risk to zero,” Musk said. “There is still some significant risk even with a regulatory agency. Nonetheless, the good outweighs the bad and we should have one.”

“It took a while before there was an FAA,” Musk said. “There were a lot of plane companies cutting corners. It took a while before there was an FDA. What tends to happen is some company gets desperate, they are on the verge of bankruptcy — and they are like — we will just cut this corner, it will be fine. And then, somebody dies.”

Source: Corporate Crime Reporter IN PRINT 48 WEEKS A YEAR

A Global Network of Association Support

Supporters And Event Champions

Testimonials